On 25th April 1984 Dolgellau only appearance in NWCup Final
This was Dolgellau's only appearance in the prestigious North Wales Cup Final when they faced Delyn at Fflint in the mid week encounter. This Saturday they face Nant Conwy at Parc Eirias in the Zipworld/GMJones Ltd final in what promises to be a great occasion for North Wales club rugby.
The following information has been kindly provided by Derec Jones of Dolgellau which gives us an insight and background to his club and the very interesting make up of the current squad.
It is hoped that many of the 1984 squad will make the trek to Parc Eirias where there will be a warm welcome for them--they may be able to renew acquaintance with one of their opposing players at Fflint- Dave 'Caws' Cheesbrough who has for many years been part of the NWCup organising team.
In their illustrious 66 year history, this will only be the second time that Dolgellau have appeared in North Wales Rugby's most prestigious event. Despite being much older than a number of current North Wales Clubs, Rugby having been played regularly at Dolgellau Grammar school as early as the 1930's prior to the club forming in 1949, the trophy has eluded them.
Dolgellau's first appearance at a North Wales Cup Final took place on Wednesday 25th April 1984 at Delyn Rugby Club, where they lost our narrowly to Delyn. Dolgellau captain, and second row, Wyn Roberts and hooker Philip Hughes, had represented North Wales region, whilst Delyn had North Wales representation too, with Stuart Harmes [centre] his brother Steven Harmes [outside half] David Cheesbrough [North Wales captain at scrum half] together with a young Wayne Pugh. All went on to form a strong Wrexham side in the next couple of seasons. Dolgellau's other North Wales representative was scrum half Dic Morgan, who scored the match winning try in the semi final at home to Mold, but missed the final, having to go on a school trip to Italy.
Dolgellau team that evening 31 years ago.
15. Dewi Rowlands (Dewi Fanner)
14. Charles Gittings (Brithdir)
13. Ivor Thompson
12. Rhys Jones (Pentre)
11. Merfyn Owen (Llanelltyd)
10. Huw Roberts (Huw Bach)
09. Martin Hughes (Huggsy Senior(
08. Trebor Davies (Pendalar)
07. John Meredith
06. Emyr Owen
05. Steve Jones (Steve Lav)
04. Wyn Roberts Capt (Wyn Mawr)
03. Paul Cook
02. Phil Hughes
01. Dei Thompson
Subs :
16. Tomi Hughes
17. Ian Palterman
18. David Bright
A very young Ian Palterman [19 years of age], was a Dolgellau substitute on that dry and warm evening at Flint all those years ago, and Ian has been involved with the club for the 31 years since that game. He was equally at home playing scrum half or stand-off and was captain over a very successful Dolgellau side during the 1999-2000 season, and is the current head Coach of the team.
There are no less than 5 sets of brothers who are regulars in Dolgellau 1st Team.
Owain and Gerwyn Thomas : Owain is club scrum half and younger brother,Gerwyn is club skipper and plays stand-off.
Geraint and Dylan Evans : Geraint plays hooker, is the club top try scorer with 15 this season, whilst brother Dylan has played inside centre for most of season.
Carwyn ,Dewi and Iwan Pugh : Carwyn can play at outside centre or full-back with equal dexterity, whilst brother Dewi props the loose head, 3rd brother Iwan making a valuable contribution at scrum half on occasions.
Berwyn and Carwyn Hughes : Stalwart Berwyn plays flanker and second-row, whilst Carwyn has had a good run of performances in the second row this season.
Huw Emyr and Guto Jones : Huw Emyr has been outstanding in the front row this season and older brother Guto has come on this season as a blind side flanker.
All the above ,other than the Thomas brothers are from Dinas Mawddwy, a small village 10 miles South of Dolgellau. If you add veteran.8 Dylan Llewelyn, and Marios Jones then it is possible that 11 players from Dinas Mawddwy could be on the field at any one time. It has not happened this season, but 8 has been achieved regularly, which is remarkable achievement for this mainly agricultural area.
Diolch yn fawr iawn i Derec Jones clwb Dolgellau am yr adroddiad diddorol hwn sydd yn rhoi hanes y clwb a hynodrwydd y tim presennol.
Dyma ond yr ail dro yn eu hanes, wedi 66 mylynedd o fodolaeth, mae Dolgellau wedi ymddangos yn y
ffeinal o Gwpan Gogledd Cymru. Er iddynt fod yn glwb dipyn hyn na nifer o'r timau yma yn Gogledd Cymru, mae y tlws yma o'r gwpan wedi osgoi dod i feddiant y tim.
Roedd rygbi yn cael ei chwarae yn rheolaidd yn Ysgol Ramadeg y dref yn ystod y 1930au, cyn i'r clwb gael ei ffurfio yn swyddogol yn 1949, gan nifer o'r cyn ddisgyblion.
Bu i ymddangosiad cyntaf y tim, yn y rownd derfynnol, ddigwydd ar y Nos Fercher y 25ed Ebrill 1984 ar faes Clwb Rygbi Delyn, lle iddynt golli yn erbyn y tim cartref mewn gem agos iawn. Roedd capten Dolgellau a'r ail reng, Wyn Roberts a'r bachwr Phil Hughes wedi cynrychioli Tim Gogledd Cymru, tra oedd gan dim cryf Delyn, Stuart Harmes [canolwr], Steven harmes [maswr] a David Cheesbrough [mewnwr] yn ogystal a Wayne Pugh hefyd wedi chwarae i Gogledd Cymru. Bu i'r cyfan ohonnynt symud ymlaen i chwarae i dim hynod lwyddiannus Wrecsam o fewn dwy flynedd. Yr unig chwareuwr arall o Ddolgellau i chwarae i'r Gogledd yr adeg honno oedd y mewnwr Dic Morgan, ond er iddo enill y gem i Dolgellau yn erbyn Yr Wyddgrug yn y rownd gyn derfynnol, bu iddo fethu y gem derfynnol oherwydd ei fod yn yr Eidal ar drip gyda'r ysgol !
Dyma tim Dolgellau y noson honno 31 mlynedd yn ol.
15. Dewi Rowlands (Y Fanner)
14. Charles Gittings (Brithdir)
13. Ivor Thompson
12. Rhys Jones (Pentre)
11. Merfyn Owen (Llanelltyd)
10. Huw Roberts (Huw Bach)
09. Martin Hughes (Huggsy Senior)
08. Trebor Davies (Pendalar)
07. John Meredith
06. Emyr Owen
05. Steve Jones (SteveLav)
04. Wyn Roberts Capt (Wyn Mawr)
03. Paul Cook
02. Phil Hughes
01. Dei Thompson
Subs :
16. Tomi Hughes
17. Ian Palterman
18. David Bright
Roedd Ian Palterman, yn 19 oed, ac ar y fainc i Dolgellau y noson sych a chynnes honno yn Fflint yr oll flynyddoedd hynny yn ol, ac mae wedi bod yng nhlwm gyda'r clwb dros yr 31 mlynedd diwethaf ers y gem yna. Mae wedi chwarae yn safle mewnwr a maswr dros y tim, ac wedi bod yn gapten yn y flwyddyn 1999-2000 ar dim llwyddiannus dros ben. Ian yw prif hyfforddwr y tim bellach.
Does yna ddim llai na 5 par o frodyr wedi cynrychioli y tim cyntaf yn rheolaidd eleni.
Owain and Gerwyn Thomas : Owain ydi mewnwr y clwb, ac mae'r brawd iau, Gerwyn yn gapten yn ogystal a bod yn faswr i'r tim.
Geraint and Dylan Evans : Bachwr ydi Geraint ac fo ydi prif sgoriwr ceisiadau y tim eleni, gyda 15 cais.
Mae Dylan yn chwarae yn rheolaidd yn y safle canolwr.
Carwyn ,Dewi and Iwan Pugh : Mae Carwyn a'r gallu i chwarae cefnwr neu ganolwr heb fawr o drafferth, tra mae Dewi yn safle y prop pen rhydd. Mae'r 3ydd brawd, Iwan, yn chwarae yn safle y mewnwr pan fo angen.
Berwyn and Carwyn Hughes : Mae Berwyn wedi bod yn chwarae fel ail reng yn bennaf ers dros 10 mlynedd, tra bod Carwyn ei frawd iau hefyd yn chwarae yn yr un safle.
Huw Emyr and Guto Jones : Mae Huw Emyr wedi cael tymor rhagorol yn safle y prop pen tyn, ac mae'r brawd mawr, Guto, wedi dod ymlaen ac yn flaenasgellwr rholaidd eleni.
Mae'r cyfan o'r chwareuwyr uchod, ac eithrio y brodyr Thomas, yn dod o DDinas Mawddwy, pentref bychan 10 milltir i'r de o Ddolgellau. Os ychwanegir y rhif 8 Dylan Llewelyn, a'r blaenasgellwr Marios Jones, byddai hi'n bossib i 11 chwareuwr o Dinas allu bod ar y maes yr un pryd! Tydi hyn heb ddigwydd eleni eto ond mae 8 o'r pentref yn rholaidd ar y cae yr un pryd. Tipyn o gamp i bentref gwledig fel Dinas Mawddwy.
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